Kommentare von Koryphäen zum Yin-Feuer und Li Gao

Viele moderne TCM Ärzte haben sich intensiv mit Li Dong Yuan und seiner Yin-Feuer Theorie auseinander gesetzt. Die hier dargestellten Kommentare sollen einen Einblick in die verschieden Deutungen und Ebenen geben.


Andrew A. Prescott [1]

During the Jin-Yuan dynasty several doctors contributed important ideas to the development of the more systematized teachings characteristic of modern TCM. Several also contributed particularly in regard to understanding heat and fire pathology which is also of interest in relation to understanding a theoretical basis of Five Element concept of aggressive energy. These masters seem to have built upon ideas found in the chapters of the Su Wen that are believed to date from the 700s, perhaps representing a culmination of these ideas rather than an innovation.

Jason Blalack [2]

In conclusion, yīnfire can be viewed in a very broad context (any internal heat) where one treats what one sees and may have great clinical success. Although, the broader the term gets, the more I feel it loses any real significance.

Simon Becker [3]

Abschliessend lässt sich sagen, dass die recht komplexe Yin-Feuer-Theorie vor allem bei komplizierten Fällen von Bedeutung sein wird. In einer Yin-Feuer-Präsentation verbinden sich Milzleere, Nierenkälte, Feuchtigkeit und Herzhitze. Die Symptome sind oft gegenteilig und verwirrend. Der korrekte therapeutische Ansatz ist die Behandlung nicht nur eines pathologischen Mechanismus, sondern die gleichzeitige Behandlung aller Mechanismen.

Todd Luger [4]

The main value of the theories of yin fire, six stages and others that emphasise the qi mechanism is that they trace the process of disease through a series of dynamic transformations. This dynamic

modelling is the key to the treatment of knotty diseases.

Xu Dachun [5]

For a long time already the path of medicine has been obscured by darkness. Among the people of the Ming Dynasty one spoke of "four great masters," referring to Zhang Zhongjing, Liu Wansu, Li Gao, and Zhu Danxi. They were said to have established "everlasting schools of medicine." This is truly nonsense based on ignorance. Zhang Zhongjing is, in fact, a sage who gathered observations and arrived at conclusions that will last forever. His position in medicine equals that of Confucius in Confucisim. Liu Wansu and Li Gao left only one-sided teachings and Zhu Danxi did nothing but consider the words of all the others. He modified here and there, discarded some statements and selected some others, and opened a convenient and simple gate for beginning students.

Actually, these three authors, if compared with Zhang Zhongjing, were unable to recognize one principle out of ten thousand that he saw, and it is absolutely inappropriate to promote the former and name them together with the latter....Now, what are the achievements of these three men? Liu Wansu revered nothing but the Neijing; the fact is, he was unable to grasp its essential meaning. Zhu Danxi's ideas are flat and shallow; he never saw the sources. Li Gao stuck all his life to his doctrine on how to regulate spleen and stomach. He advocated nothing but the use of herbs with an aromatic and dry nature, only a rising effect in one's body. His views were unbalanced, and his patterns for designing prescriptions were chaotic. He misled posterity!.…

Giovani Maciocia [6]

I personally diagnose Yin Fire and use variations of Bu Zhong Yi Qi Tang whenever there are symptoms and signs of Heat in the upper part of the body which are not reconcilable with Full Heat nor with Empty Heat because they are combined with some Cold symptoms such as cold feet and a Pale tongue. Manifestations of Heat above may include feeling of heat of the face, red cheeks, thirst, mouth ulcers. In my experience, mouth ulcers are frequently caused by Yin Fire.

Giovani Maciocia [7]

Indeed, in my experience, Yin Fire plays a role in many modern, difficult diseases such as

chronic fatigue syndrome, allergies and autoimmune diseases.

Wu Bo-Ping [8]

Yin-Feuer spielt keine große Rolle für heutige Patienten. Allerdings sind die Rezeptuen von Li Dong Yuan sehr gut durchdacht. (Ungefähr, zwischen den Zeilen des Buches)

Jiao Shu-De [9]

Indeed, many conditions characterized by yang vacuity and center burner vacuit have been cured by the use of this formula. (…). the kidney is the only one of the five viscera that bu zhong yi qi tang does not treat for vacuity.

Bob Flaws [10]

The most famous, most important one from the jin-yuan doctors. (In jedem Buch von Flaws Bezüge zu Li Dong Yuan)

Stephen boyanton [11] [12]

Li explains in detail how to recognize whether these symptoms are caused by internal or external damage, but the distinctions are often subtle and were all based on Li’s personal experience and reasoning. No previous medical text had made these differentiations. Li Gao refashioned internal damage into a complement for cold damage, producing similar febrile illnesses but demanding very different treatment methods.

Gunther Neeb [13]

Doch das Problem ist nun, dass seine z.B. im Bu Zhong Yi Qi Tang vorgeschlagenen Arzneien wie Huang Qi und Ren Shen selbst warmen, süßen Charakter haben und zwar unten die schwache Niere tonisieren, aber oben das pathologische Yin-Feuer fördern können. Er nahm daher kalte Arzneien hierzu, ebenso wie Liu Wan-su, um der potenziellen Hitze vorzubeugen. Zugleich weiß er aber, dass kalte Arzneien die Mitte schädigen und Yin-Feuer mit warmen Arzneien „gezähmt” werden kann.Therapeutisch ist dies aber eine schmale Gratwanderung zwischen Attacke und Tonisation, ähnlich wie bei Autoimmunerkrankungen die Therapie oft zwischen Attacke der Entzündung und Tonisation des immunregulierenden Wei Qi pendelt. Heute weiß man, dass solche eher statisch „trägen” Qi-Tonika immer auch dynamische Qi bewegende Arzneien benötigen, um die Milz mit ihrer Macht nicht zu überlasten, doch welche Dynamik übertrifft schon die des Yang selbst, wenn es wieder alles bewegt?

Elisa Rossi [14]

The consideration of the role of emotional stimuli in the aetiology of fire is developed by Li Dongyuan, who analyses the consequences of heat at the level of consumption of yuanqi. ‘Euphoria-xi, and anger-nu, grief-you, and fear-kong damage and consume yuanqi and feed fire in the heart. Fire and yuanqi cannot coexist, if fire dominates and invades the position of earth.' And 'Anger, rage, sadness, thought, fear, dread all damage yuanqi. The powerful burning of yin fire beginning in the heart generates condensation and stagnation and the reason for this is that the seven emotions are not calm.' (Li). Li Dongyuan's elaboration of the relationship between emotions and fire is taken up by Zhu Danxi who reflects particularly on desires and emotions,

Zhu Dan-Xi [15]

Das Yin von Leber und Niere kommt auch aus dem ministerialen Feuer, beim Menschen wie am Himmel. Man fragt sich also: Wie kann Li Dong-Yuan behaupten, es stehle (die Kraft) vom Yuan Qi? Nun, ministeriales Feuer und Yuan Qi sind zwei Kräfte: Wenn das eine nimmt, muss das andere geben.

Charley Chase [16]

Excerpted from The Secret Treasury of the Orchid Chamber (Lan Shi Mi Zang) (Three Types of Menstrual Block and Failure of Movement)

Huang Huang [17]

Li Dong Yuan, the renowned Jin-dynasty doctor, created the famouse prescription Tonify the Middle to Augment the Qi Decoction (bu zhong yi qi tang) to treat a presentation involving internal injury to the Spleen and Stomach. (…) The range of pracctical clinical uses of onify the Middle to Augment the Qi Decoction (bu zhong yi qi tang) is unusuallyy wide. Furthermore, the broader a formula´s range of indications, the more importan it is ti be rigorous in grasping when and how it should be used.


[1] http://www.harmonygate.com/chinesemedicine/medical%20masters%20of%20the%20jin-yuan.pdf

[2] http://www.chinesemedicinedoc.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Yinfire-EssayII.pdf

[3] https://www2.lian.ch/index.cfm?fuseaction=resources.12847&lan=de

[4] https://www.jcm.co.uk/the-role-of-the-qi-mechanism-in-the-treatment-of-knotty-diseases.html

[5] http://www.itmonline.org/arts/jinyuan.htm

[6] http://maciociaonline.blogspot.de/2012/08/yin-fire.html

[7] https://www.elsevier.com/books/the-psyche-in-chinese-medicine/maciocia/978-0-7020-2988-2

[8] https://www.amazon.de/Qin-Bo-Weis-Treatment-Methods-Prescriptions/dp/0939616742

[9] https://www.amazon.com/Lectures-Formulas-Personal-Experience-Jiao/dp/0912111755

[10] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-7apYmB4mc

[11] https://vimeo.com/169158802

[12] https://stephenboyanton.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/s-boyanton-dissertation.pdf

[13] http://www.classicalchinesemedicine.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/neeb_yin-feuer.pdf

[14] https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/34157114/fire-and-emotional-illnesses-european-journal-of-elisa-rossi

[15] https://www.amazon.de/gp/search?index=books&linkCode=qs&keywords=9780936185538

[16] http://www.chinesemedicinedoc.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/li-dong-yuans-gyn-chace.pdf

[17] https://www.amazon.de/Ten-Formula-Families-Chinese-Medicine/dp/0939616688